Update on Kevin Kunz's Research - Big News and Big Event!

[music] Hello everybody and welcome to the next episode of Wednesday's Reflexology Wisdom. And the the the strangest things happen. They really really do. Um because Kevin literally just called me on the phone and he started to give me an update and everybody knows what brilliant research Kevin's doing. And I suddenly said, "Hang on a second. What are you doing for the next 10 minutes?" And Kevin said, >> "I'm I'm at your disposal." [laughter] So anyway, I says, let's do a Wednesday's reflexology wisdom and we can give everybody an update as to what's happening, how things are going. Um, so over to you, Kevin. Take cuz you were just about, you were getting all excited. You were telling me or just about to tell me where you are with everything. So please, let's tell everybody. >> Well, there's several really exciting developments. uh one of which is we now have two universities that are collaborating on our our our research project which is called neuropathways of applied reflexology and in it what we're doing is we're uh applying reflexology as in real time it shows what part of the brain is being activated and we have several really interesting data uh um um things coming out one of which is There's one area on the foot that when you apply pressure to it, it affects 28 different parts of the brain. >> 28 >> 8 28 parts of the brain. >> Good grief. >> Yeah. No, it's and uh you know it's the one I associate with the uh Vegas nerve. >> Oh >> yeah. So yes, when we're looking at the vagus nerve, yeah, the vagus nerve has kind of a global uh effect on the brain >> and that also that would make perfect sense being as it travels right the way through the body, >> right? And it's affecting parts of the brain. Uh there's a particularly close connection with what's called the preffrontal cortex. That's right up on your forehead, you know, right behind your forehead. Y >> and that has to do with all kinds of stuff. motivation, task uh task management, uh impulse control, so forth and so on. >> Yeah. >> So that has major implications on things like mental health and uh it has even uh parts of the brain that are being activated are showing promise for space flight. I'm talking to people that are connected to NASA at this point. >> I was just going to say you're going to be NASA's reflexologist before we know it. Well, we're we're hoping and uh you know, I'm dealing with uh uh people that uh are teaching NASA uh students that are going to be engineers with NASA. So, we are trying to get our foot in the door and we'll see what happens with that. But it goes on from there. It definitely has a big impact in a bunch of neurological type of things. >> Amazing. Uh, and [clears throat] there there are parts there are are parts of the brain that there's one part that I've always called my magic area. It's at the base of the the the eye ear area at the base of the toes on top of the metatarsal heads. >> That shows real promise because they call it a precision tool. It's affecting 10 different parts of the brain but very significant parts of the brain. So, we're quite excited and we have a excellent excellent data person. They're they're really pulling things out of the this data that you know perhaps no nobody else would be able to find, but he's a he's a real wonder king. >> So, this is somebody this is not Dr. Stefan Posi. This is somebody else. >> That's his data person, >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, [clears throat] Arthur is uh Yeah. He's he's he's a wonderkin. I mean, he's just pulling stuff out and we're seeing the data and they call it historic >> once in a lifetime type of thing. >> So, yeah, we're moving along and the funny part about all this is, you know, the the research project was in two parts. >> Yes. >> One part had to do with healthy healthy subjects and then the other part had to do with stroke patients. Well, the data coming out of the stroke patients is so strong. Uh, we thought the University of Minnesota might have be fading out of the project. No, they're back in again. So, we actually have two two universities collaborating on this. >> So, who's the other one? >> University of New Mexico. >> That's the one with Stefan Pi, >> right? He's the professor uh radiology. And we have a scanner opening up 15 minutes away from where I am now sitting. And it's going operational. And we're going to have access to it. >> Oh, you mean it's not your own private scanner? >> I have a big backyard, but they didn't want to put it in. [laughter] >> What a shame. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Do they not know where you are? Yeah. Really? No, but you know the the the interesting part about this I've been I you know I'm on a fundraising drive right now. So I'm talking to people all over the world at this point. And you're saying look the fun part about all this is >> we can move from uh opinion to fact very quickly. Yeah. If you use a functional MRI and the functional MRI is uh basically uh this is software that uh Dr. posi uh uh developed. >> But basically as you're yeah as you're applying the uh uh pressure to the feet, it's showing exactly at that moment what goes on in the brain. I got to tell tell you a quick story about my wife Barbara. >> Hello. >> She was she was sitting in the control room and we were working on a stroke patient and if you've ever seen a scan of a stroke patient, the air is just dark, right? And it's kind of frightening. >> Okay. >> But as she >> area for the brain has died, I guess. Yes. >> Yeah. Basically. Yeah. And so as she's uh sitting there, she said all three scientists that were in the control room jump up and say, "Look at that." And they pointed to the screen. There was activation in the stroke patients part of the brain that just had showed no activity. >> Wow. >> So they're moving on. They they want to do more with stroke. >> So we we are going to be able to kind of have a huge, if I dare, I'm not going to use the word cure. We're not allowed to use the word cure, but we're going to have a massive healing effect then potentially for stroke patients and we're going to be able to prove it. >> I call it solutions. >> Oh, >> we're going to have solutions. >> Yeah. You know, cure sometimes it gets all that connotation and that's thrown in our face, but I'd call it a solution. And when you look at stroke, you're talking about the the most expensive uh uh bill, health care bill in the world is with stroke stroke patients. So that >> you your your your video's just disappeared. >> Okay, let's see. >> There you go. You're back. [cough and clears throat] So, at any rate, uh, we've got two univers. I've got to tell you, David, you know, I I'm listening to scientists talk and it's like, what language is this? [laughter] >> But we've got we've got the top neuroscience. These guys have stellar stellar reputations. >> Fabulous. >> So, we and so they're going to be giving Okay. So we have an invite to uh okay we did a first uh presentation in Singapore last year >> and now this year we have an invitation to Cape Town, South Africa. It's the International Society of Magnetic Residence in Medicine. Kind of a mouthful. >> It is a bit isn't it? >> Yeah. Yeah. A bit. But there's 6 to 8,000 neuroscientists from around the world gathering. Okay. So normally what you do is you do an ab you do an abstract the abstract gets accepted and it's put on a basically a poster and the poster is stationed at the conference. We are getting an oral presentation. Dr. Stefan Posi is going to be giving an oil or oral presentation which is a big deal. >> Excellent. >> You have to have you have to have very valid science. you have to have in very uh uh stellar kind of data and uh so it's a big honor and only one out of five that go to the conference and present their findings will make it onto the main stage and do an oral presentation. >> So he's already making it onto the main stage. >> He's made it. >> He's made it. Amazing. That is amazing. So basically the world of science is sitting up and paying attention. >> Yes. No question about it. And our hope is, you know, I've always been about jobs, jobs, jobs for reflexologists. And this may open the door to a lot more research and potentially reflexologists will be hired to uh uh apply the techniques and so forth. So it's a really good return on investment when you get down to it. >> Oh yeah. You know, because I'm saying not only when we get scientifically validated and by the way, it's May 12th and so on May 12th. >> May 12th this year. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're right. Tight deadline. [laughter] I'm always on a tight deadline. But any rate, >> I love it. I love it. So tell me though, Kevin, what hurdles are you facing at the moment? Because I would imagine knowing you, there's always a butt somewhere. >> The butt is we have Okay. So, since we're going to make it onto the main stage, get get an oral presentation, we want to bolster our data >> and so we're going to scan some more. >> We're going to scan healthy subjects down here in New Mexico and then we're going to scan the stroke patients up in University of Minnesota because they're already set up for it. >> Okay? And so we've got to make uh we we've got to raise more money for more scans and scanning is expensive. >> Yeah, you're you're what is 600 pounds in I mean $600 US in pounds. >> That's what you got. >> I would Well, let's just say it's 550. I something like that because we're >> that's an hour every hour you you're at the scanner >> really. >> So it's Yeah, it's an expensive process. >> I'm just going to I'm just going to put that into a quick I've got my phone here. I'm just going to put it as a quick thing. $600 did he say? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> How much $600 in pounds stirring? >> Might be a bit of a mixup. >> Oh, no. No, no, no. But anyway, it's a lot of money. And so, how how much are you needing to raise, Kevin? >> About £15,000. >> 15,000? Oh my good. And this is the problem for us reflexologists is >> oh I get it. >> We don't have big farmer backing us up. We don't have deep pockets um with anywhere. But oh my goodness. Yeah. >> But the point is you know there right now on on Facebook alone we have over 12,000 uh uh uh friends and I don't know how many followers. Any rate, if everybody would give up uh a cup of coffee and donate it, we could make it because >> literally three3 pound each. That's not a lot of money, is it? >> Yeah. >> And that would do it. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, that's that's the challenge, >> please. You've heard it. >> And also, we would appreciate any statements from uh uh the reflexology royalty like yourself. >> Me? >> Yeah. [laughter] >> You You're Listen, my friend. You are the reflexology royalty, not me. >> You're making me blush. [laughter] But no, seriously. Yeah. If guys, if you can give £3, >> that would just be amazing. If you give more, please do because of course not everybody will give. >> Um, it's just so frustrating. You know, if we we could get reflexology on the map in such a big way. We really really >> big, very big. You're talking about, like I said, 68,000 neuroscientists. We're going to change. Okay. When we first started this out and we first saw the scans and so forth, Dr. Posi said, "Well, you know, not only is this going to change the way we view reflexology, but it's going to change the way we view how the human body works." >> Yes. And ifology can be the at the beginning of that, that would be phenomenal. >> Well, think about it. We will basically be changing the neurological um um theory. Yeah. >> Yeah. We will basically what okay the thing the flaw in this whole thing in essence I found neurology does not pay much attention to the peripheral nervous system the hands the feet and so forth. >> Ah >> they do not they don't see it and you're going yeah but this is about human locomotion. You know Barbara has a a saying she likes which is you either go out for lunch or you become lunch. It's all about survival. >> Yes, >> it's all about survival. So, we're finding circuits. There's one that we're particularly interested that could have an implication for sports if you want to talk about job opportunities. And basically what it does is it it it's involved in IMOtion. And so it if you have uh say uh a football team, see I didn't say soccer, I said football. So a football team, you got players that know just exactly where everybody is on the field. There's a part of the brain that we lit up when we applied technique lit up that area. >> Oh, so that's going to be really really good for because actually now not many people know this, Kevin. I used to play strong safety and free safety in >> Oh, did you? >> Football. Yes. As in American football. Yeah. So I I can I can see immediately >> there is going to be a huge demand for this because >> in American football for those that don't want to you have set plays. Each down that you have has got a set play. Everybody needs to know where everybody is on the team. And of course the whole idea is to deceive the opposite team so that they get misinformation. But if you know where everybody's supposed to be that's going to be huge. You're gonna get the AFL and the NFL paying you millions. >> Anyway, Barbara just came in, so I I just wanted to signal her we were doing our thing. >> Oh, right. You are. Okay. >> So, no, no, you're exactly right. So, we have a player, a quarterback that's famous in this country because he's able to know where everybody is on the field. he can he can uh focus and and by the way this is all about uh you know we have said that the foot is a sensory organ you know and that's that's been a thing we've talked about for decades and decades one of the things I'm getting into right now is the foot is a threat detector >> oh >> so you have to detect what's underfoot or it's survival and so a lot of these are very quick signals you're going from the foot to the brain in about 25 milliseconds. >> So any rate, so yeah, we're starting to crack some really interesting territory and we can only grow from here. The more uh we and and I want to make it a routine so that we have new approaches or new uh uh ideas in reflexology. We can test them. We can turn them from opinion to fact. >> That sounds perfect. And what a great way of uh finishing with that quote. Let's change opinion into fact indeed. And guys, if you can help, [gasps] you know, instead of having your coffee tomorrow morning, have a a donation instead. £3, that's all it is, and we'll be able to get this thing all wrapped up and finalized. That would be just amazing. Kevin, thank you so much for being so spontaneous when I says, "Hey, rather, let's do a phone call. Let's do Wednesday's reflexology wisdom. You are >> Well, I shaved for you, David. [laughter] Last time around, I had a beard, so >> I was going to say, yeah, you're looking really, really good today. You really, really >> Oh, thank you. I'll go take my vitamins there. [laughter] >> You have a lovely, lovely day. Thank you so much for doing this. >> And, uh, guys, um, it's I hope you've enjoyed watching this. Stay well, stay safe, and do please subscribe and see you at the next exciting episode of Wednesday's Reflexology Wisdom. >> Thank you, David. >> Thank you everybody. [music]